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Dr. Fuhrman's Response to Campbell/Nelson Accusations

May 30, 2019 by Joel Fuhrman, MD


Recently, Jeff Nelson, an individual who has a business that promotes a low-fat vegan lifestyle, has made me the subject of a series of vicious and relentless personal attacks. He dredged up a more than a decade-old error in a chart review study and a misunderstanding between Dr. T. Colin Campbell and myself to attack my reputation, my integrity, my credibility and my business practices.  Dr. Colin Campbell then unfortunately posted a misinformed statement that adds to the mess. Here is the list of those claims numbered and my response and evidence of their incorrect and slanderous nature.  Any comments that I try to post under Jeff Nelson's video are quickly hidden as shown below.

  1. I falsified the data in this study published in 2008 to make myself and my diet look good.

    Though I am very upset by the errors in the study, I had no role in the data entry, statistical analysis or calculations.  My role was to allow a researcher, Barbara Sarter, PhD, to review my patient charts around 2002.

    Here is a statement by Dr. Sarter, the leading researcher of this study. “I conducted this chart review project as a completely independent, unfunded research activity while I was an Associate Professor at the University of Southern California. The research report was published in the journal Alternative Therapies in Health and Medicine with my name as first author, Dr. Campbell in the middle, and Dr. Fuhrman as third author. Dr. Fuhrman played no role in the collection of the data or analysis of the results.”

     
  2. I was accused of putting Dr Campbell’s name first on the study, that he agreed to participate with, to get it published and aggrandize myself in some way. 

    This is false as Dr. Sarter wrote above. Dr. Campbell contacted me twice about this when it happened—before we both knew that the study had errors in it. I showed him and he was aware that the original study had his name in the middle position.  See the screen shot below – and he was told and accepted that. Then when the journal posts their yearly archives (brief synopsis) of all articles printed—they alphabetize the authors.  I had no role in that, I do not work for the journal and have no control of what they do. 



    Dr. Sarter had written in an e-mail to Dr. Campbell back then in 2008, which I have a copy of, and have copied it here: 

    “The Alternative Therapies Archives (which had your name first) is not a different journal, it is simply a listing of the back issues of the original journal that published our article. The article is listed there under each of our names, alphabetized, as all articles were there, but the cross reference is to the original publication that had me, Colin and Joel listed as authors in that order. Nothing needs to be done.” 

    So Dr. Campbell was aware back then, that I did not put his name as the first author. 

    The screenshot Nelson showed on his YouTube attack against me (shown below) lists the authors in alphabetical order (Campbell, Fuhrman, Sarter); this appears to be a fabricated version of the article, since there are revision marks visible in the text, which would not have been included in the final published article. The final published article listed the authors as Sarter, Campbell, Fuhrman and is listed the same on  PubMed.  The journal no longer has Dr. Campbell’s name anywhere, so that is further indication Nelson fabricated this mock up to implicate me falsely.

    The additional claim that I had the producer of the movie “Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead” place a Cornell banner over a poster of this research study in question to, in some way, to link me to Dr. Campbell, is also untrue.

    On the journal’s website, Dr. Campbell’s name has been removed as per his request. Among the archives where authors are listed alphabetically you can now see my name first, even though Dr. Sarter was the primary author, because we are listed alphabetically as I already explained.

     

    In the physical copy of the 2008 journal, the order is Sarter, Campbell, Fuhrman:

     

    This is a screenshot of Nelson's "faked" version:

 

  1. Nelson stated, Dr. Sarter was my intern and paid by me.  Not true.  Her statement, “I have never been an employee or intern of Dr. Fuhrman. He paid me an honorarium once for a video talk I gave for his nutritional education website. I have no conflict of interest in this matter, financial or otherwise.” 
     
  2. I refused to retract the study from the journal when Dr. Campbell asked me to. 

    Not true. He pulled his name off the study. He did not discuss this with me or give me options of how to handle this. That would have been a good idea. The fact is, I phoned Dr. Campbell and got him on the phone to try to ask him what else I could do to rectify this situation.  He hung up the phone on me.

     
  3. Jeff Nelson claims I am still citing the 2008 weight loss study. I am not.

    Nelson showed two screenshots, supposedly proving that I still cite the 2008 study. The first screenshot was of an article I did not write or submit to that website. The article mentions my name and the study. Nelson is purposely misleading his viewers here, implying I wrote this and posted it recently. Nelson has the viewer falsely believe he is showing my website with that.

    The second screenshot was of an old
    article which the magazine decided to re-run online earlier this year without my knowledge, and my staff has contacted the magazine and had it removed.

     
  4.  I publicly lied that the study results showed that the patients did not regain the lost weight over the period of the study. 

    All of my statements about the study outcomes were supported by the original, as well as the corrected data analysis. The number of subjects included was inaccurate by one. I reported accurately what the study concluded in its original published report , which stated, “weight loss appeared to be sustained in those who returned for follow-up” and this was true.

    Furthermore, a review of the corrected data, still substantiates that these patients of mine did not have significant weight regain and my statement was not false. Here is Dr. Sarter’s response based on her published erratum and re-analysis of the original data.

    “I corrected these mistakes and submitted an erratum to the journal, reporting that the actual mean weight loss of the group of 18 who had a 2-year follow-up visit was 37.6 lbs. The most significant weight loss occurred within the first year of follow-up for all participants. Out of the 18 people with 2 year data, none regained their original weight.  At two years four had a regain of 5 pounds or less, and one had a 10 pound regain, from their lowest weight at one year. Significant regain would be defined as 10% of original baseline weight, and using this criterion, no one regained a significant amount after the original highly significant weight loss.

    The new statistical re-analysis still found these results to be highly significant statistically, so the conclusions of the report were unchanged. Dr. Campbell did not consult with me to go over the data and add his input. I communicated with the journal editor to discuss the situation and they suggested I submit the erratum, which was subsequently published.”
     
  5. That my claim is false that my obese and compliant patients lose 12 – 15 pounds the first month and about 8 pounds a month in subsequent months.

    I stand by this with 30 years of experience after many thousands following my program across the country. I have over 1000 success stories submitted to my website for publication by the public.  We have posted over 500 of them, for people to review, many with before and after photos.  The average weight loss of these submitted cases, with many remarkable recoveries of
    serious diseases, is over 50 pounds—sustained over time.  This is further documented in a survey study of my website members who follow my guidance, who also showed a similar amount of weight loss overtime when the results were aggregated and published recently.
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    At my retreat in San Diego where people stay for 30 – 90 days and are 100 percent compliant with my dietary program, obese individuals routinely lose more than 15 pounds the first month and 8 – 10 the next. Those figures are accurate and not exaggerated, and we have begun a study review process for publishing this data in the scientific literature.
     
  6. I misrepresented that Dr. Campbell had made unfair and unjustified attacks against me before the mistakes in this study were aired.  I brought up that we had a falling out way before this unfortunate event.   

    This point I had already proved with a copy of the e-mails by John Mackey and other physicians on the Whole Foods Market Scientific Advisory Board, whose e-mails I saved, who were forced to reprimand Dr. Campbell for his insulting comments towards me.  Dr. Campbell and a few of his closest medical associates also attempted to exclude me from the Whole Foods Advisory board (unsuccessfully) and refused to have constructive dialogue and meetings.  This was before this error-containing study was discovered. As a result, two separate advisory boards had to be set up by Whole Foods Market.  I think instead of trying to exclude me from their meetings, and refusing to join me on the Whole Foods Advisory Board to discuss these scientific controversies, and hear my decades of experience with patients, and their blood results and outcomes; they could have been open to friendly discussions and interest, since I had the most real patient interactions, with sick people following similar guidelines. That would have showed a true scientific spirit.

    I would not choose to dig up this old issues, to talk negatively about Dr. Campbell, or even discuss these past errors that all of us may have made, if I had not been the recipient of vicious and slanderous attacks attempting to discredit me and destroy my reputation and career.  I am still hoping that one day there could be open dialogue and forgiveness all around.  Nobody is perfect.   
     
  7. The outcome my critics hope to have, is to use this mistake in my past, to discredit anything else I say or do.  They do not want to grant the fact that I have experience with patients, close friends and family that developed dementia and Parkinson’s disease, while on a super healthful vegan diet, that when checked had a very low to non-existent DHA level. There is significant number of studies and in the scientific literature linking low DHA levels to brain shrinkage or dementia. Their response is that this is all just a ruse to sell DHA supplements.  They couch my cautious conservatism to not take chances with people’s brains as being fraudulent. I will speak-up with a passion for what I believe in, as I am certain that some individuals are being needlessly damaged by the nutritional viewpoints of these people attacking me. 

I have a differing viewpoint on health and nutrition and what constitutes an ideal diet and ideal nutritional protocol, especially for a vegan, compared to these individuals who are highly critical of me. Hundreds of esteemed lifestyle medicine physicians and nutritional researchers agree with my interpretation of the literature, as opposed to the views of Mr. Nelson and perhaps Dr. Campbell.  Many of those in the lifestyle medicine and nutritional research community side with me in these areas of debate. Hopefully with more time and the accumulation of further evidence it will be easier to ascertain who is correct with regard to some of these differences, and their relative risks and benefits.  Personal attacks should not be a part of the evaluation of the evidence.  

As always, thank you for your understanding and compassion while I navigate these troubled waters as the recipient of these derogatory attacks.

Joel Fuhrman, M.D.

 
References

[1] Fuhrman JH, Ferreri DM, Singer ML. Long-Term Weight Loss Maintenance on a Nutrient-Dense, Plant-Rich (NDPR) Diet: A Survey Study. International Journal of Disease Reversal and Prevention 2019; 1:1.

Joel Fuhrman, M.D. is a board-certified family physician, six-time New York Times bestselling author and internationally recognized expert on nutrition and natural healing, who specializes in preventing and reversing disease through nutritional methods. Dr. Fuhrman coined the term “Nutritarian” to describe his longevity-promoting, nutrient dense, plant-rich eating style.
 
For over 25 years, Dr. Fuhrman has shown that it is possible to achieve sustainable weight loss and reverse heart disease, diabetes and many other illnesses using smart nutrition. In his medical practice, and through his books and PBS television specials, he continues to bring this life-saving message to hundreds of thousands of people around the world.

 

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thewateringmouth

05/30/2019 07:35 PM

We're all behind you, Dr. Fuhrman, and thank you for making such a difference in so many lives. Thanks for the clarifying info. Hopefully we can put all this to rest now and move on with our healthy eating journeys. 

golfer1

05/30/2019 08:37 PM

Funny yesterday on Dr  Campbell’s website under  Nutritional Science was his letter.  It’s not there now, why?   Where did it go?   if he was so strong about his position it should still be there. Not to mention the first thing was a add for 15 % off his program.  

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Carissawnc

05/30/2019 09:29 PM

Thank you Dr. Fuhrman for taking the time to respond to this. Those of us that are 100% behind you are supportive of you because we know what you teach us WORKS. I have lost 45 pounds so far.  I will write my testimonial to your website when I get closer to my goal weight. No other program I have tried has given me this much success, this much knowledge to decide what to put in my body, this much support and resources. I thank you for saving my life and I know that whatever day chronic illness may strike me due to the decades of terrible eating I did before finding your teachings, it will be much delayed due to you. From the bottom of my heart I thank you!

HealthyDietDoc

05/31/2019 08:40 AM

It is amazing and quite sad how petty, vindictive, jealous and just plain mean people can be.  This is especially surprising in an arena made up largely of experienced, educated professionals. 

 

Jeff Nelson clearly has emotional issues.  I feel bad for him, we all should.  If you even intimate something critical towards him he becomes unhinged.  Just look at the number of actual law suits he has filed against individual YouTube users (100s!) for posting comments that teased or mocked him (all dismissed by the court or are likely to be).  It’s YouTube Jeff, grow a pair. 

 

Not once has Jeff Nelson shown any class, respect, integrity or honesty in any commentary regarding Dr. Fuhrman.  Its just cheep, dishonest hit videos that pander to a few evangelical followers and a desperate attempt to raise his view count (he’s more enamored by his social media following than a 15 year old trying to become an Instagram model).

 

Dr. Fuhrman has maintained his dignity and class throughout this entire salvo of attacks.  Dr. Fuhrman corrects the record with facts, not feelings.  Jeff Nelson is only about his feelings, which is why he lies constantly.  We have all seen this type of toxic person before.  They used to call the Jeff Nelson’s of the world ‘bullies’, but now we know more and we just call them sad and self-loathing.  I hope he gets the help he needs.  It’s never too late, Jeff.

 

Regarding Dr. Fuhrman’s accurate and thoughtful rebuke of all of Jeff Nelson’s hollow indictments, it is now clear to any thinking person that:

 

Jeff Nelson’s Credibility and Reputation - R.I.P.

Larry Maloney replies:

06/01/2019 07:14 PM

Hollywood Jeff might be a sociopath. Dr. Fuhrman should stop interacting with him and sue. Or, at least stop interacting which is what Jeff wants and needs to create drama on HIS website.

Gavin5001

05/31/2019 10:06 AM

Well said Dr Fuhrman. The fact that Jeff Nelson went out of his way to dig up a 10 year old study to attack you with straight after the nut videos just proves he had a vendetta from the start. 

Larry Maloney replies:

06/01/2019 07:11 PM

It's just business to Jeff, and fun to jerk others around.

Emily Boller

05/31/2019 10:19 AM

I am forever grateful for Dr. Fuhrman’s information, because it has saved my life, my husband’s life, extended my late mother’s quality of life; not to mention the hundreds of people I have interacted with over the past decade! To say that I would’ve most likely suffered a stroke or heart attack and died these past ten years is no stretch of the imagination.

 

In 2008, I lost 20 pounds in the first month of following Eat to Live, and then an additional 8-10 pounds monthly for a total of 100 pounds. In less than a year’s time, I no longer had prediabetes, heart disease, aching joints, chronic low back pain, and lethargy. I became athletic again—like I had been in high school!

 

I also suffered a terrible tragedy—a son’s suicide—this past decade and “should” be on an antidepressant today; at least that’s the go to solution for most parents who suffer the loss of a child. Instead, thanks to a high-nutrient diet, including nuts and seeds, his women’s supplements, DHA, and OmegAvail, I live life to the fullest today.

 

Dr. Fuhrman and his staff have worked tirelessly and sacrificially for many years to bring this life-saving information to the public; and because of that, my young adult children will now have a healthy mother to celebrate their ongoing milestones and achievements for years to come!

 

Thank you, Dr. Fuhrman, for your goodwill toward mankind and all that you have done, and continue to do for all of us.

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Tammy-Beth

06/01/2019 11:19 AM

I'm so sorry this is happening to you Dr. Fuhrman. You have helped so many of us. Eventually the light casts out darkness. Please keep shining. 

Larry Maloney

06/01/2019 07:08 PM

Dr. Fuhrman, do you "know" your opponent? Jeff Nelson fancies himself as the leader in the vegan movement. His life's work was, in the past, advertising...hamburgers, beer, Pudin Pop, most anything available. Presently he keeps baiting you to draw you in deeper and deeper. No matter what accounting or explanation you offer he will fault it. There's no way you can "right" any error, misunderstanding, or mistake with Jeff Nelson. That's not his purpose.  He's drawing attention to his website. It's just business. Vegans are engrossed in the battle. Meanwhile, Dr. McDougall's drunken stupor, captured on video a few months back, is relatively unnoticed. Jeff runs with seedy characters behind the facade he projects in his videos. You will never appease him. Your own words become his next attack video content.  Either consult an attorney or stop replying. Not replying cannot harm any more than the material you keep giving him by replying.  Jeff's wife is overweight and Jeff's daughters are going on 26 but act13...to sell their pimple book. At twenty-three they did a video letting men lick their bodies. In return, they did their share of licking, too. In short, you are dealing with classless people. No good will come of you helping Jeff slaughter you. At this point, you either have a lawsuit (injunction?) or you don't. If not...give it up or you won't have a life. McDougall has problems and Jeff is making his power move. You are in the way. Sue Nelson, McDougall, and Campbell. When the other two have some skin in the game it gets real. Look at their old videos.

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Larry Maloney

06/01/2019 07:16 PM

Jeff has a video of a woman at his & McDougall's "retreat" losing 30 pounds in 30 days...so why challenge Dr. Fuhrman on his successes?

Dr. Fuhrman

06/01/2019 08:41 PM

 

Even though I agree that I should not have gotten involved over there and I had made a mistake to stir up such hatred. I think that it became very important that I offered proof here that these two most serious accusations were false, because these are very serious accusations, picturing me like I am a criminal.  They are:

I did not manipulate or falsify data in that 2008 study, as Jeff Nelson insinuated.

In his video, after my denial of such treachery, he showed “Shultz” on Hogan’s Heroes stating, “I know nothing.”  Inciting hate against me.  And, then by removing any comments there that question his accusations or offered some contradictory facts (hiding them), he encouraged a frenzy of hate against me.   

The false accusation of further villainous behavior—that I tricked Dr. Campbell, putting his name first in the study to aggrandize myself and get some type of fame from his name. I think not only did I demonstrate that was incorrect, but also I have e-mails from Campbell acknowledging that I showed him the proof that I did not do this a decade ago, yet he still brought it up again now accusing me of that as if he never knew this.  Whether Nelson faked that screenshot, or someone else gave it to him like that is irrelevant—the point was that it was faked and I was wrongly accused.  

If Nelson had a shred of decency, at least he should acknowledge and apologize for spreading these two great big lies about me.   Note: he does not mention that I adequately demonstrated those accusations are false, he only defends himself that he was not the person who “faked” that front page showing Campbells name first. 

 

hudawi replies:

06/02/2019 09:44 AM

Dr. Fuhrman,

I have the utmost respect for you and your work.  I'm glad you realize it's best to ignore Jeff's videos after clearing a couple of the more serious accusations.   Notice that Dr. Greger never responded to Jeff's accusations and as a result Jeff has no additional content to attack Dr. Greger with.  Dr. Greger ignore strategy worked.  Jeff does not deserve to get dignified with any response. Your responding strategy only gave more materials to Jeff, unfortunately.   I loved Dr. Mcdougall's interview with you.  He is a professional and discussed any differences of opinion with you with class and respect.  That's how such discussions should go, not classless attacks on your character.  All the best to you Dr. Fuhrman.  You do great work and have impacted tons of people.  Many people including doctors have become WFPB because of your work and openly say so, even if later they chose a slightly different style of how much of each food group they eat.  We all customize to what works for us individually.   Fact is without you, many would have never even considered WFPB diet, including those who later chose to go ultra-low-fat.

normajean33

06/02/2019 12:39 AM

I think it's so sad when people are trying to find ways to improve their health with diet and then there's these fights going on. It just leads to more confusion. I thought it was a well known fact that certain fat soluble nutrients need some fat in the diet to be absobed into the body. And the brain needs fats, including the omega 3 fats. Why risk dementia in old age? 

auntyoxidant

06/04/2019 07:50 AM

Normajean,

.......And any qualified health professional in this day and age knows that.

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elizaaub

06/04/2019 04:22 PM

Dr. Fuhrman,  I have the utmost respect for your work and contributions to health.  I feel very fortunate that I found your first book, Eat to Live, in a thrift store.  I read it from cover to cover and this got me started on my WFPB journey; that was over 10 years ago. I have read your other books now too.  I have never felt better in my life and feel healthier now than before this journey.  My husband joined me shortly afterwards and is enjoying better health on this path too.  We trust your information  and Dr. Greger's the most of all the health professionals in this community.  I have watched with utter dismay the recent attacks on your work, with all the inflammatory language to catch attention.  We need unity to solve the problems of the world today, not this vilifying, hatred and mean-spiritness. In contrast, I found your responses to be respectful, reasonable and factual.  I am saddened and dismayed that someone wants to keep this spirit of disunity going.  For what purpose and end?  This really hurts the WFPB community.  I hope reasonable fair-minded and intelligent people speak out for truth and more noble purposes.  I like what Michelle Obama says:  "When they go low, you go high".  We continue to encourage you and your work; mankind needs your wisdom!

 

Sookie Stackhouse

06/05/2019 10:21 AM

I posted very civil, even respectful comments on both Jeff Nelson's and Colin Campbell's sites.  My posted comments, and those of many others, did state some disagreement with Nelson and Campbell's statements regarding Dr. Fuhrman. When I revisited both sites to read new comments I see Jeff Nelson deleted hundreds of comments that were critical of him.  Even worse, Campbell totally shut down the comments on his slanderous Fuhrman attack page.  People posted links to Dr. Fuhrman's concise rebuttal on Campbell's site but Campbell thought it best that only his own words could be read.  Nelson and Campbell ignore or twist Dr. Fuhrman's facts that completely exonerate him from the baseless attacks they are trying to put forth.  Bad form from those two for sure.  Both are cowards.

 

Not only has Dr. Fuhrman produced unequivocal proof of actual innocence of the slanderous and fraudulent claims Nelson and Campbell make, but that proof is also a clear indictment that Campbell and Nelson are knowingly lying with malice and forethought.  I don’t fault Dr. Fuhrman at all for responding to false allegations.  I would.  But I do agree with some of the other people posting when they write Dr. Fuhrman is in a difficult position because when it comes to the Jeff Nelson’s of this world, you can’t argue with crazy.  I am sad to see that Dr. Campbell has succumbed to the same petty insanity as Jeff.  Maybe the tail is wagging the dog on this one.  If I could talk to Dr. Fuhrman I would simply say: thank you.

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catlaunch replies:

11/01/2019 02:33 AM

What you posted in your first paragraph is good information to know; and I, too, don't blame Dr. Fuhrman at all for responding.  However, it is probably at the point where he should consult an attorney, for Nelson is repeatedly posting his slander against Dr. Fuhrman, as a fan of vegsource recently made me aware of.  This fan of vegsource is someone close to me, who's trying to correct his diet to bring down his high blood pressure.  So far, he's made changes but hasn't been able to bring it down, and I've been trying to teach him about what Dr. Fuhrman says that he isn't doing.  However, a slanderous video of Dr. Fuhrman that he recently saw Nelson post on vegsource has got him thinking that he won't have anything to do with what Dr. Fuhrman teaches.  So sad. :( 

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tjandtonyago

06/19/2019 01:08 PM

Dr. Fuhrman should post his response to the VegSource videos ON his (Fuhrman’s) own YouTube channel so the viewers that are watching those videos may also SEE his response.  It is unlikely they will go to this website.  I did see his YouTube interviews with McDougall and The Watering Mouth, however this post on the website is much more thorough.

 

Gatorman

06/21/2019 09:00 PM

When you are the BEST at what you do and have helped so many people-others get jealous(Jeff Nelson).Keep up the GREAT work as many people are counting on you !! PS I have now lost 25lbs(in 45 days).,was taking 5 meds,and now take none and think you are the BEST ! RCP

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bettereveryday

07/14/2019 03:30 AM

Thank you for taking the time to do this process this way.  I know that this whole situation makes it so much more difficult for people who are trying to go Whole Food Plant-Based to understand what to believe within the community.

There is an irony of sorts that right after the posts about you, that Jeff posted a video about how to recognize fake news on the internet and his first sentence is about enjoying Dr. Fuhrman's food.  I felt like that was his subconscious mind wrestling with his conscience about things.

While I am here, I want to recommend you looking at Krock's in the Kitchen, if you already haven't.

I have been eating progressively toward Whole Food Plant-Based for the past year and a half, but I am probably halfway between Nutritarian and The Starch Solution.  Perhaps alternating in different seasons.  They are so good at inspiring me, that I am definitely looking at more Nutritarian recipes.  I feel like they are the most professional, higher production value of the people out there who are representing Eat to Live.

 

 

Fred S.

08/25/2019 04:05 PM

Dr. Fuhrman,

Proven medically correct. Backed by verified scientific evidence.

Self promoting bullies have always and will continue to degrade successful people in an effort to puff themselves up by trying to minimize others.

Stay on him Dr. Fuhrman. His reaction highlights his lack of integrity.

Regards,

Fred S.

 

Surf32937

08/25/2019 10:00 PM

Dear Dr. Fuhrman,

As you likely know, but I will mention in case other readers do not, the most current APA format calls for author's names to be cited in alphabetical order. I read all of your points and I must say, these physicians that are making these false claims are only trying to stifle a much needed American awakening that ALL of us need to re-think the SAD and demand some sort of food revolution in this country. Arguing a few pounds here or there is ridiculous. Your ETL Nutritarian life style has helped thousands of people in so many ways. If a person gains back 5 pounds- big WHOOP. The alternative is doing nothing and nobody ETL- with no weight loss- and thousands of people using the next new nitpicking argument as an excuse to do nothing. I hope everyone listens to Dr. Fuhrman because he is the one of the only MD that truly is DOING SOMETHING to help people. 

catlaunch replies:

11/01/2019 02:08 AM

AMEN TO WHAT YOU SAID!

BridinBee

08/26/2019 11:55 AM

These attacks are infuriating. Nelson is relentless and has no scruples about using innuendo, and outright lies to try to damage Dr. Fuhrman’s reputation and his business. At first I almost believed the stuff he was saying and then I looked further. For example, I almost jumped off my chair when I heard Nelson say Dr. Fuhrman charged $60,000- for a 3-month stay at his retreat, so I checked it out—it was another big lie, he’ll do anything to smear Dr. Fuhrman.  In a word, it’s evil. I feel like he walks a very thin line between libel (written) and slander (spoken) defamation – but he’s likely protected by the still-evolving laws regarding internet speech.

Calling himself a journalist is ridiculous. Actual journalists don’t dismiss and twist facts just so they can push their own agenda, call people names  and falsely besmirch other’s character.

CoraC

10/09/2019 02:06 PM

The accusations and attacks on Dr. Fuhrman are clearly unfair in what appears to be an attempt to destroy another man's career for one's own personal gain.  When someone is at the top of their game, "let's destroy them", mentality is often employed.  That’s our society today.  Judge, jury and executioners out of malice to tear others down when at the top of their game.  People make mistakes, we ALL do.  Even statisticians.  No one is exempt from mistakes.  It was brought to Dr. Fuhrman’s attention and was rectified as much as one can.  Let it go people.  I think it's absurd that it's even reached this point in a desperate attempt to distract from a sea of net gains.  I wished more doctors had this much care and compassion as I’m sure it’s been an uphill battle for Dr. Fuhrman and others going against mainstream for fear of retaliation (such as this).  People fear what’s unfamiliar to them.  But the proof is in the pudding.  The testimonials speak for themselves.  There are others as well.  Let's stop this nonsense Jeff Nelson, ET AL.  Stop the defamation of good character.  Get involved in something more positive like forming a comradery vs. enemy lines, so that we can save more lives working collectively as a team.  We still don’t have all the answers but need to keep moving forward without all the unnecessary distractions by those seeking political gains and self promotion.   

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catlaunch

11/01/2019 02:39 AM

I don't blame Dr. Fuhrman at all for responding to Nelson.  However, it is probably at the point where Dr. Fuhrman should consult a good attorney, for Nelson is repeatedly posting his slander against Dr. Fuhrman, as a fan of vegsource recently made me aware of.  This fan of vegsource is someone close to me, who's trying to correct his diet to bring down his high blood pressure.  So far, he's made changes but hasn't been able to bring it down, and I've been trying to teach him about what Dr. Fuhrman says that he isn't doing.  However, a slanderous video of Dr. Fuhrman that he recently saw Nelson post on vegsource has got him thinking that he won't have anything to do with what Dr. Fuhrman teaches.  So sad. :(